Abe Arganiosa Goes Delusional

by Christiandefenders

This article is our reply to another material that was published on the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa’s blog entitled “ADD BLOGGER BECOMING PARANOID”. Let us examine how he failed to prove that his critique blogger, Christiandefender was becoming paranoid to his dismay. This is another false accusation that we will address through careful analysis on how his trash talks made a negative impact on his writing style and on his credibility.

For our readers to have a full grasp of his trash talks, feel free to visit his article on this link.

http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2009/12/add-blogger-becoming-paranoid.html

It has come to my knowledge that a non-ADD blogger in the Person of Joseph Ras aka Pinoy Reformista also took notice the way this Priest writes on his replies. Since he is an active Baptist member, I am certainly sure that Joseph Ras is not in any way a fan of ADD. His point of view regarding salvation is very much different from the teachings being discussed on all of our ADD programs. Therefore his statements are not motivated because of his partiality with ADD.

http://pinoyreformista.blogspot.com/2010/01/asal-ng-isang-paring-defensores-ng.html

Pinoy Reformista wrote:

Kaya ang mensahe ko sa mga mambabasa:
Huwag niyo pong tularan ang paraan ng pakikipag-talakayan ni Ginoong Abe (Mateo 23:3). Maging mahinahon po tayo sa lahat ng oras, huwag magpadala sa init ng ulo.

Partikular na mensahe ko naman kay Ginoong Abe:
Magbago na po kayo (Rom. 12:1-2). Iminumungkahi ko rin po na bawas-bawan na rin po ninyo ang pagkain ng mga mamantikang putahe para di po kayo laging naaaltapresyon.”

He then concluded his article with a verse written in the Bible.

“Mag-ingat kayo sa mga bulaang propeta. Lumalapit sila sa inyo na nagdaramit-tupa, ngunit sa loob ay mababangis na lobo. Makikilala ninyo sila nang lubos sa pamamagitan ng kanilang mga bunga. Ang mga tao ba ay makakapitas ng mga ubas sa tinikan o ng mga igos sa dawagan?”
(Mateo 7:15-16)

My say:

This is what I meant when I said that what Abe Arganiosa says just back-fired at him. A person with a wise discerning spirit can easily distinguish a trash talk from sound reasoning. He will have a difficult time to gain respect from other people using that kind of language. Considering that the writer of this blog is a Baptist and not an ADD.

What is a delusion?

According to thefreedictionary.com; “a delusion is a false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness.” Reading some parts of his article, it appears that Abe Arganiosa is not only paranoid but delusional. Let mo point out some examples of his delusions.

DELUSION #1

Concerning me being in capable of facing Soriano. Excuse me. He, he, he… It is the other way around. IT IS SORIANO WHO CANNOT FACE ME BECAUSE HE IS HIDING FOR HIS IMMORAL CASE… FOR HIS HEINOUS CRIMES.

Abe Arganiosa has been deluded away from the fact that in today’s technology, a preacher like Bro. Eli Soriano is capable to debate with anyone without the need for him to be on the same place where his opponent is.  An example of that debate was the debate with Pastor William Saraga.

It is not true that Bro. Eli Soriano was hiding because of his immoral case . He still continues to preach in public in a foreign land which results for many souls to receive the genuine Christian Faith.

Also, through modern technology, Bro. Eli Soriano conducts Bible Expositions on different parts of the world like in Africa.

He was also able to speak in different college Symposiums like what took place in the University of the Philippines.

DELUSION #2

Instead, Soriano faced only the men on the streets and claim victories over these simple Catholics. HE CANNOT SHOW PROOFS OF HAVING DEBATED THE BEST DEBATERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OF THE INC. In short, Eli Soriano is a show off, a CLOSET QUEEN… In boxing parlance, HE IS FLOYD MAYWEATHER: fighting only the ‘has beens’ and on court he kept on running and running.

We have no claim that those people who had the courage to face Bro. Eli in a debate were the best debaters of the Catholic Church. However, his statement will imply that the Catholic Church was not able to present its best debaters ever since Bro. Eli started preaching. Now we have a Catholic Priest who testifies that those debaters who had the courage were not qualified to defend the Catholic faith with Soriano as their Nemesis. These debaters includes Victor Villas and Froilan Garza of St. Peter Men’s Society as well as Rey Entila of the Catholic Faith Defenders.

That must be the reason why Victor Villas and Rey Entila did not agree to have a cross examination during the debate upon learning that Bro. Eli will surely put them to shame once they have been cross-examined. What was promised by Christ is reflected with Bro. Eli in all of his debates.

(Luke 21:13-15)

And it shall turn to you for a testimony. Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Abe Arganiosa also admits that even Priests were not trained for debates which is the reason why they had to rely with their so-called “official debaters”.

DELUSION #3

Now, about your claim that no priests ever debated Soriano during his 40 years of preaching. Well, our priests are mostly not trained for debates they are trained for pastoral ministries. However, Soriano should have sent official debate challenge to the hierarchy of the Catholic Church so that our official debaters could have faced him. Instead, Soriano faced only the men on the streets and claim victories over these simple Catholics.

Now we can easily understand why Abe Arganiosa makes invalid excuses in the guise of improbable conditions in order to escape a challenge of a Debate. He knows in his heart that a priest like him is not trained for debates and he is not capable to face  a person like Bro. Eli Soriano who is a veteran of debates. Now he diverts the challenge to what he call as “official debaters”. But wait! Aren’t the debaters from St. Peter Men’s Society and Catholic Faith Defenders Official? People like Victor Villas, Froilan Garza and Rey Entila claims to be official debaters of the Catholic Church. Rey Entila even has another debate with SDA posted on Youtube.

Is Rey Entila a simple Catholic? Is Froilan Garza a man on the street?

DELUSION #4

FR. ABE: WHO SAYS THAT I DON’T WANT TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE DEBATE. I WANT TO NEGOTIATE. BUT SORIANO AND I MUST BE THE ONE TO TALK IT OVER.

This is rather funny! A priest who cannot show any record of his previous debates and admits that Catholic Priests like him are not trained for debates tries to make it appear that he wants to negotiate. I have asked for the telephone number of Abe Arganiosa’s live television program if any but he refused to give it. Now, he is telling me that he wants to talk it over with Bro. Eli Soriano. However, we could give him another chance. He can talk it over with Bro. Eli Soriano in his most convenient way and that is through the Internet. Every Wednesday, Bro. Eli Soriano has a live broadcast online. A live audience online can catch him at 7am to 12nn Philippine time. You just have to follow this link.

http://www.justin.tv/elisoriano#r=-rid-&s=em

Abe Arganiosa actually makes my job easy by telling me that he wants to talk it over with Bro. Eli Soriano. Go ahead and we will wait for you every Wednesday. I will not be negotiating with this debate anymore since you appeal that you want to talk it over with Bro. Eli Soriano. Although, I believe that your statement is a delusion, we shall wait and see what the negotiation will do to make the debate materialize.

DELUSION #5

AND NOW, YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONE DEBATING AFTER ALL. YOU ARE EXCUSING YOURSELF. YOU ARE NOW WASHING YOUR HAND LIKE PONTIUS PILATE. YOU WANT ME TO FACE YOUR HIDING LEADER WHILE YOU ARE HIDING YOURSELF AND REFUSING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAITH. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

The challenge right from the start is a debate between Bro. Eli Soriano and Abe Arganiosa. It was not a challenge of a debate between any other people. Bro. Eli Soriano wants to debate with a priest ever since he started preaching in a span of more than 40 years. It is not a cowardice to say that my preacher is the one who’s going to face you on a debate.  That is an act of respect for our beloved messenger of God. I will not in any way present myself in a debate while my preacher expresses his eagerness to defend our faith from all adversaries. Bro. Eli Soriano is still able to defend and proclaim our faith no matter how far he is because we know how to maximize the God-given resources available in our era.

In summary, we have proven that Abe Arganiosa’s statements were results of his belief that Bro. Eli Soriano could not face him on a debate in today’s era of modern technology.  The evidences that we have shown invalidates his claim and proves to be a product of his mental delusion.

9 Responses

  1. Nicely said! Certainly, one can found Mr. Arganiosa is now intellectually challenged. I think he needs to reflect.

    Also, I would choose not to visit Mr. Arganiosa’s site. It’s like going to a dump site.

  2. Abe Arganiosa’s site is not really worth our time to read. It is easy to realize that fact when you look at it.

  3. Mr Abe,
    We will wait for you to open up the call officially every Wednesday.Yamang ikaw mismo ang may sabi
    ‘WHO SAYS THAT I DON’T WANT TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE DEBATE. I WANT TO NEGOTIATE. BUT SORIANO AND I MUST BE THE ONE TO TALK IT OVER.’Oh di heto ang oras pra sau na patunayan mo ang mga sinasabi mo.

  4. We want a debate on National Television wherein millions of people will be able to watch. That can be done now although two parties are not on the same place through modern broadcast technology. These Catholics insists on the primitive way of debate which already happened before because that is their way of escape. Abe Arganiosa knows that he is not a trained debater and cannot represent the Catholic Faith victoriously that’s why he resorted to give improbable conditions. Conditions which came from a person who cannot show any record of his previous debates.

  5. hi

  6. Kung kelan nasa ibang bansa si Bro Eli saka sumulpot tong pari na to… Papansin lang yan gusto magkaron ng pangalan through Bro Eli…

  7. duwag naman kasi ang pari na yan bro parang si cenon …hinamon ko mag post sa blog ko na (http:mcgi-pantas.blogspot.com. takot ang mga duwag na yan

  8. Mga bro, kahit wala namang debate na mangyari ok lang kung babasahin niyo yung mga nakasulat sa blog niya tungkol sa relihiyon nila. May batayan yung mga sinasabi niya. Kung masakit siya magsalita, e ganun talaga, naiinis na siya e.
    Huwag sana tayong ignorante sa katotohanan. Nasasagot niya lahat ng tanong at nakabase sa bibliya. Huwag niyo sana Idelete to.
    P.S. Ayoko sa style niya na nagsasabi ng hindi magagandang bagay sa kapwa. Enlighten niyo rin ako mga brad. Baka may matutunan ako sa inyo.

  9. God Bless din pala.

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