A Critique For Abe Arganiosa’s Justification of His Insolent Accusation Against Bro. Eli Soriano

by Christiandefenders

Acts of insolence are very rampant on the Internet thess days. Unfortunately, I have seen someone who was regarded as God’s preacher by blind followers doing such. According to thefreedictionary.com, ” insolence is the trait of being rude and impertinent; inclined to take liberties.” Although the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa still claims that he is decent, any person who knows how to discern a decent person from what is not will disagree by just reading his articles.

I just remembered a question asked by the Apostle Paul to a sorcerer named Elymas which can be read in the Book of Acts 13:10 “And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?.” If I were to answer the question of the Apostle Paul, there are really people like the Catholic Priest Abe Arganiosa who will not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord. The articles he has written on his blog is a clear manifestation on how the devil has a great influence in his manner of reasoning. I am going to dissect the contents on his article in order to prove how deluded his thinking is.

Abe Arganiosa says:

Here is my latest response to the Ang Dating Daan [ADD] apologists who keep on posting here links to their Blogs, inviting me to read their claims. Well, I have no time for that. I leave that apostolate to our lay Catholic Apologists but once they come here, I will response to them point by point.

Was there something on my comment inviting him to read our blogs as he claims? There was clearly none. In fact, he even quoted what I’ve stated.

Christiandefenders says,

It’s alright if you don’t care to visit our blogs. Former Catholics like us will continue to defend our new found faith. The Catholic Priest has repeatedly said that Bro. Eli Soriano is a Rapist without carefully examining if that is true or not. Was he able to witness the incident? Was he even raped in order to cry for justice?
That is a very weak argument for those people who knows that Bro. Eli is just a victim of false information circulating on the perverted minds of bigots who doesn’t know how to defend their faith properly.

We shall continue this discussion on the Internet as we deem appropriate.

Any person who knows basic English understands that we have clearly stated that  it doesn’t really matter to us if Abe Arganiosa visits our blog or not. There was not invitation for him whatsoever on my comment. Why did this Catholic Priest say that we are inviting him? The first paragraph on his article is already delusional. This faulty reasoning manifests his incredible manner of writing. The next part of his first paragraph may shock experienced computer Internet users.

Abe Arganiosa says,

Since this exchange was uprooted from original post where the comments were posted I answered in capital letters to contrast my response with the one from ADD. It is not intented to shout whatsoever.
Here is one of the latest exchange with them:

For people who are already familiar with the way Abe Arganiosa write his replies, everyone can attest that this Priest is really fond of using Capital Letters on his articles and comments each time he bursts with emotions. This was also noticed by another blogger who is in no manner a fan of ADD, Pinoy Reformista.

http://pinoyreformista.blogspot.com/2010/01/asal-ng-isang-paring-defensores-ng.html

Pinoy Reformista wrote,

(*Mapapansin na ang mga titik ay naka-Uppercase, na nagpapahiwatig na ang manunulat ay nangungusap nang pasigaw). Sa tingin niyo po ba ay maka-Cristiano ang uri ng pakikipagtalakayan (apologetics) ni Ginoong Abe?

Translation: (*It is noticeable that the letters used were in Uppercase, which signifies that the writer is speaking in a manner of shouting). Do you thing that this is a Christian act of discussion (apologetics) of Mr. Abe?

Even an Email etiquette tip attests to what Pinoy Reformista said.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/do-not-use-all-capitals.html

Email Etiquette Tip – DON’T SHOUT!

If you USE ALL CAPS in your email or message board posts, you will immediately make yourself seem inexperienced or ignorant. Most experienced computer users consider the use of all capital letters to be the Internet equivalent of shouting.

For those of us who spend a lot of time hanging out in cyberspace, messages written in all capital letters are reminiscent of trying to hold a conversation in which one person is shouting every word while others are speaking at a normal volume.

Now that I have proven how faulty his reasoning is for using ALL CAPS on his reply, let us see how stupid his statements are.

Abe Arganiosa says,

IT ONLY SHOWS THAT AS YOU DEFEND THE DOCTRINES INVENTED BY MAMA ELI YOU HAVE MANIFESTED IGNORANCE OF YOUR FORMER FAITH. IT IS A PITY THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS INVENTED BY A FALSE PROPHET WHO MERELY APPEARED IN THE LATTER TIMES RATHER THAN THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH THAT GAVE THE BIBLE TO THE WORLD.

I beg to disagree with what was said by this Celibate Monster. Upon carefully listening and examining everything that Bro. Eli preaches, it was beyond a shadow of a doubt that everything is base on the Bible. On the other hand, everything that I’ve learned from the Catholic Church are purely base on man made traditions. The Bible prohibits the use of the title “Father” to a preacher of God contrary to what Catholic Priests do; The Bible prohibits the use of graven images on acts of worship which the Catholics are guilty of no matter how hard they try to justify it; The Bible prohibits vain and repetitious prayers which Catholics are fond of doing whenever they recite the Rosary. I cannot be a part of a Church who plotted murders of people in the Inquisition and the Crusades. How can a Church like that claim to be Christian when its acts are none Christian at all? Sadly, this Church who claims to have given the Bible to the world is the one teaching doctrines and doing deeds contrary to the Bible.

Abe Arganiosa says,

MAMA ELI IS ACCUSED OF HOMOSEXUAL RAPE IN THE COURT OF LAW. THAT IS A FORMAL AND SERIOUS COMPLAINT BECAUSE IT INVOLVES CRIMINAL ACT. AT THE SAME TIME THE ACCUSATION IS ABOMINABLE TO THE LORD BECAUSE HOMOSEXUAL ACTS ARE CONDEMNED IN THE BIBLE. HOW MUCH MORE HOMOSEXUAL RAPE?

What difference does a homosexual rape makes compared to a heterosexual rape? They are both classified as sin base on the bible. The gravity of both offense are just the same. However, the blind eyes coupled with a lying heart of this homophobic moron fails to see the fact that those complaints are just baseless and nonsense accusations. Another odd thing about him is when he said that Bro. Eli is guilty although Bro. Eli was just simply being accused. There is no such thing as presumption of guilt in the law followed in our country. What was clearly stated on the constitution is the presumption of innocence whereas the government would need to prove the guilt of an accused person before declaring him guilty.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/presumption+of+innocence

presumption of innocence. a fundamental protection for a person accused of a crime, which requires the prosecution to prove its case against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt.

Remember that we’re in the Philippines wherein we uphold the presumption of innocence instead of the presumption of guilt.

http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/evidence.html

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall be presumed innocent until the contrary is proved (Sec. 14(2), Art. III, 1987 Constitution; Sec. 1(a), Rules of Court). Unless his guilt is shown beyond reasonable doubt, he is entitled to an acquittal (Sec. 2, Rule 133, Rules of Court; United States vs. sicor, 1 Phil. 304; People vs. Corachea, 91 SCRA 422).

“It is better to acquit a man on reasonable doubt, even though he may in reality be guilty, than to confine in the penitentiary for the rest of his natural life a person who may be innocent.”(People vs. Manoji, 68 Phil. 471)

Accusation is not synonymous with guilt. The prosecution must overthrow the presumption of innocence with proof of guilt beyond reasonable doubt. To meet this standard, there is need for the most careful scrutiny of the testimony of the State; both oral and documentary, independently of whatever defense is offered by the accused, Only if the judge below and the appellate tribunal could arrive at a conclusion that the crime had been committed precisely by the person on trial under such exacting test should the sentence be one of conviction (People vs. Dramaya, 42 SCRA 60).

The reason why I am compelled to quote from the Philippine Constitution is because this Priest seems to act as a lawyer who doesn’t even know what he is saying.

Abe Arganiosa says,

IF HE WANTS TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT. LET HIM APPEAR IN COURT, PLEAD NOT GUILTY AND PRESENT HIS EVIDENCES AS WELL AS WITNESSES. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY.

An accused does not necessarily need to appear in court immediately in order to prove his innocence.The case should be reviewed by a public prosecutor which is part of the process that happened to the case of Bro. Eli Soriano.

When the prosecutor saw that the case is a result of a rift ongoing between INC and ADD, and the complainant is indisputably ill-motivated, he decided to dismiss the case.

In order to provide more information on this article, regarding the rape case which is repeatedly stated by the deluded Abe Arganiosa, let me quote some paragraphs from the blog http://jakeastudillo.wordpress.com/.

The Justice

On October 5, 2005, Otto Macabulos, Asst. Provincial Prosecutor addressed an information to Jesus Manarang, Provincial Prosecutor, Province of Pampanga, that Mr. Soriano is presently facing two counts of rape (no bail recommended) that he filed pending preliminary investigation with the Prosecutor’s office in San Fernando. The information said Veridiano claimed that he was sexually abused on May 17, 2000 at around 1:30 in the afternoon and on June 8, 2001 around 3:00 in the afternoon. The information further said it was physically impossible for the accused suspect (Soriano) to carry out the alleged crimes as there are documents for him of his whereabouts.

The hard evidences given for the rape charge (Ra 8353), page 5 Resolution said: 1) On May 17, 2000 at around 1:30 in the afternoon, Soriano went to the Biological Health Center in Malate, Manila to undergo chelation therapy. It took him about 3 hours and on the basis of records, the respondent was treated at the clinic. After the chelation therapy, he went directly to Lipa city, Batangas for a Bible Exposition which started at 7pm to 11pm. Soriano never left the stage all throughout the event.

Both Dr. Jean Marzan and Dr. Frederick D. Franciso of the Biological Center attested that on such date and at that time, and on the basis of their records, the respondent was treated at the clinic.

The information further said that on June 8, 2001, that Veridiano said he was raped for the second instance at about 3 o’clock in the afternoon, Soriano together with Rico Fernandez at 11:30 in the morning went to the Office of one Ma. Evangeline Veliora in a bank located in Bambang, Manila. They then proceeded to meet a certain Aida Briones, an accountant recommended by Veloira as regards the loan they were applying for. Fernandez, Veliora, and Briones each had written an affidavit to affirm that Soriano was with them that day. These affidavits were notarized by Bernardo Cuaresma on October 21, 2005.”

It is clear that evidences and testimonies were already presented for the dismissal of the case. There is no rational argument to insist that Bro. Eli is guilty of the accusation hurled against him on the grounds of presumption of innocence and base on the evidences presented of the incredibility of the circumstances that surrounds it.

Another question that I posted for the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa to answer is the question of his crying for justice for the rape case. Was he a witness to the alleged crime to be sure that it really happened? Was he the victim of rape to seek justice? Let us analyze his ambiguous stand on when and how to cry for justice.

Abe Arganiosa says,

NONE OF MY RELATIVES HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE AMPATUANS YET I CRIED FOR JUSTICE TO BRING THE ACCUSED TO THE COURT OF LAW. NONE OF MY RELATIVES WERE KILLED IN THE DACER-CORBITO OR NIDA BLANCA CASE. YET I CRIED FOR JUSTICE TO THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. WHEN THE FAMOUS MAYOR OF LAGUNA, SANCHES, WAS ACCUSED OF RAPE THE ENTIRE NATION CRIED FOR JUSTICE.

DO YOU WANT US TO STOP CRYING FOR JUSTICE BECAUSE I WAS NOT THE ONE RAPED? HOW ABOUT THE AMPATUANS SHALL I ALSO STOP CRYING FOR JUSTICE TO THE VICTIMS IN MAGUINDANAO BECAUSE I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE KILLED? YOUR REASONING DEFIES NOT ONLY LOGIC BUT ALSO HUMAN INTELLIGENCE. THAT KIND OF REASONING IS PROPER FOR ANIMALS BUT NOT FOR HUMAN BEINGS WHO HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE VICTIMS AND LOVE OF TRUTH AS WELL AS JUSTICE.

To use the case of the Maguindanao Massacre and compare it with the alleged rape case filed in court is a wrong analogy. 50 people were clearly murdered while Daniel Veridiano was not clearly raped. There’s no need to cry for justice over an impossible crime which was use to give burden to the Innocent. We can cry for justice for the victims of the Maguindanao Massacre but there is no need to cry for Justice for Daniel Veridiano. He himself attests that no harm  has been done to him by Bro. Eli or by the congregation.

He even had a written statement of his confession about the evil acts before he was excommunicated.

No matter how hard he deny and say that he did not wrote this letter, his video is clearly not a forgery. Daniel Veridiano was actually excommunicated for raping more than twenty men in the Department he heads. The man allegedly crying for rape is the real rapist.

That was proven by the testimonies of his victims.

http://jakeastudillo.wordpress.com/

By now, the length and size of his penis have become common knowledge to the public. Over at YouTube, the videos describe his organ as really large. His rape victims demonstrate an open “O” with their thumb and pointer finger. They say it is 5-and-a-half inches in length but the size has become their problem because when he forced his penis into their anus, it was really painful.

Abe Arganiosa’s insolence evidently lead him to act as a false lawyer for the real rapist who is crying for rape. I have proven on this article that Bro. Eli Soriano is innocent of that crime. Crying for justice in behalf of a rapist who claims to be raped is not only stupid but also reflects the kind of preacher that Abe Arganiosa is. He is a homophobic celibate and narcissistic bigot who doesn’t care to be insolent without even analyzing and investigating what is true or not.

The Reason Why Bro. Eli Soriano Does not Apologize is Because he is NOT GUILTY of any Crime

Here is another article for the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa who doesn’t stop to post his delusional statements on his blog. Apparently, the Catholic Priest would really write something on an article without careful examination if what he is stating is accurate or not. He points out that Bro. Eli is not facing his accusers which for him is a sign of guilt. Let me quote his statement from his article,  YOUNG CATHOLIC APOLOGIST FROM UNIVERSITY OF SAN CARLOS, CEBU CITY BRILLIANTLY REFUTED THE LIES AND DISTORTIONS OF DATING DAAN.

“FR. ABE: LEGAL ACCUSATIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ERRONEOUS WERE FACED BY CHRIST. THUS, BY DOING SO HE PROVED HIS INNOCENCE AND REVEALED THE IMMORALITIES OF HIS ACCUSERS. IF MAMA ELI WILL FACE HIS ACCUSERS LIKE CHRIST THEN HE CAN PROVE HIS INNOCENCE. WHAT HE IS SHOWING ARE SIGNS OF GUILT.”

The first sentence is misleading.  The Lord Jesus Christ did not voluntarily surrendered in order to be put to trial before the court of Pontius Pilate. Keep in mind that the Lord Jesus Christ was betrayed by Judas. The High Priest during his time actually paid Judas to do the deed of betrayal.

(Like 22:1-6)

Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.  And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.

Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.  And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.  And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.  And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude.

In addition to that, there is an account of escape made by Christ in order to avoid those people who wants to put him to death. That was carefully written by St. John.

(John 10:39)

Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

What Abe Arganiosa does right now is a result of  a reckless thought resulting to a delusion. Even in the law of man, a person cannot be called guilty unless proven in court; thus the presumption of innocence is formulated. According to lectlaw.com, and I shall quote.

INNOCENCE, PRESUMPTION OF

The indictment or formal charge against any person is not evidence of guilt. Indeed, the person is presumed by the law to be innocent. The law does not require a person to prove his innocence or produce any evidence at all. The Government has the burden of proving a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and if it fails to do so the person is (so far as the law is concerned) not guilty.

Even the bible stated an instance wherein the presumption of innocence is applicable just like what happened to St. Paul.

(Acts 16:37) NIV

But Paul said to the officers: “They beat us publicly without a trial, even though we are Roman citizens, and threw us into prison. And now do they want to get rid of us quietly? No! Let them come themselves and escort us out.”

The Apostle Paul appealed to the Roman Soldiers of an unjust treatment that they’ve received because of the fact that what happened to them lacks trial. It is indeed against human standards to execute a person without due process even in the Roman Law. What happens to Bro. Eli may be similar to what happened to St. Paul. We see a Catholic Priest who was suppose to be regarded as God’s messenger by Catholics but is doing the same thing that the Roman soldiers did. He actually stated that Bro. Eli Soriano is guilty despite the fact that none of his cases were proven in court, ultimately none were proven in the Supreme Court.

In fact, the Rape Case which the Catholic Priest loves and adores to repeatedly say was already dismissed on grounds that it lacks substance.

The case was only cause by a rift between INC and ADD according to the decision. The prosecutor was able to see that the complainant was ill-motivated because Daniel Veridiano was excommunicated from the church and later on transferred to INC, thus lessens his credibility.

More information can be found on http://jakeastudillo.wordpress.com/.

Is there any particular reason why the Catholic Priest is fond of repeating to state that Bro. Eli is a Rapist on his trash articles? Was he there when the incident happened? Was he ever a victim of rape to cry for justice? The Catholic Priest, if he he is still on his right senses, cannot and will never claim an affirmative answer to all these questions. It was clearly a trash talk and a resort to insult of a person who is unable to reason out effectively.

To make his trash talk worse, he pointed out that Bro. Eli did not apologize on his alleged crimes after I’ve stated the incident that happened during the time of Inquisition.

FR. ABE: THAT IS THE GREATNESS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. OUR LEADERS HAVE APOLOGIZED FOR THE SINS OF OUR MEMBERS BUT MAMA ELI IS NOT APOLOGIZING FOR HIS VICTIMS AND FOR HIS LIES. THE PROTESTANT LEADERS HAVE NOT APOLOGIZED FOR THE CATHOLICS THEY ANNIHILATED, FOR OUR FAITHFUL THEY HAVE TORTURED AND FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES-MONASTERIES THEY BURNED.

Bro. Eli Soriano has nothing to apologize. After all, the reason why he does not apologize is because he is not guilty of any crime. On the other hand, the act of apology that Pope John Paul II did for the 300,000 people who were murdered during inquisition is a proof of admission of guilt. They really have something to apologize that’s why he did,  whereas Bro. Eli does not have anything to apologize at all. His guilt only occurs in the perverted mind of Abe Arganiosa.

We Are Christians and not Catholics Because we Choose to Follow Christ

by Christiandefenders

Being called a Christian is much better than being called a Mormon, a Baptist, a Catholic, or an Adventist! Hope you will not deny Christ. – Bro. Eli Soriano


I would like to expound my answer to a comment made by Manny on this blog. Recently, Manny Cruz who is a member of the Catholic Church was referring to preachers who snatches away people from the genuine faith that is of God. If I were to analyze what Manny has been really thinking of. It would be safe to presume that as a Catholic, he believes that the Catholic Church is on the side of the truth which is of God which is the reason why he is defending the Catholic belief so much on his comments. It would also be safe to presume that he is referring to preachers of other religions who uses the bible to preach and were successful in converting members from the Catholic Faith. He stated that these preachers were enriching themselves by using the bible in preaching.

Although it is true that there are really preachers outside the Catholic Church who are enriching themselves by preaching the bible and teaching people to give money as if God needs money, there are still preachers who preaches the word of God because of good intention. Despite the fact that there are really false prophets who are going around to deceive people, God still sends his prophets in order to bring people to know the truth. If we will rationalize the idea, we cannot say that something is false if something true is not available. However, believing whether a person is a prophet of God or false is subjective. Your belief should be guided by the right reasons base on the instructions of Christ written on the Holy Scriptures.

Let me share some reason why former Catholics like me choose to leave our former religion and embrace Christianity as our Faith. I’m going to use and quote from the testimonies of former Catholics which is compiled on one of our blogs http://keytothelockedbook.wordpress.com which we also maintain.

Bro. Mark, one of my friends who also posts his comments on this blog says that he noticed that the teachings of the Catholic Church is very different from what he read from the bible. I’m going to quote some paragraphs from his statement.

Bro. Marks says,

I became an active member of the Catholic Church when I join the Claret Youth Movers in our Church in Zamboanga whose Patron Saint is St. Anthony Mary Claret. I was also an active in the Charismatic Group’s Music Ministry because I love to sing. Aside from that, I also became active in Catechism wherein I strongly believe that joining them is right in order to propagate the Catholic teachings which I believe is true in the eyes of God. In summary, I became active in the church for more than 7 years.

While I was reading the Bible, I noticed that our teachings were different from what I have read which gave me some doubts. I started to ask myself why the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ are different from the teachings of the Catholic Church.  I also asked questions to my friends about the Bible but they couldn’t answer but “You’ll really get crazy if you will really follow the Bible.

There was a  period in human history wherein the bible can be read by rich people because printing press is not available. There was also a period when the bible is forbidden to be read by the masses by bigot religious leaders torturing bible owners and burning their copies. In our era, the bible is regarded as the best selling book of all times. It is in fact the most widely read book in the world making it easier for people to know more about Christianity. It is not a surprise if Mark was able to read a copy of the bible and compare it with Catholic teachings base on Catechism. Rather than believing something because he was told to believe, Mark finally realize that he needs to start investigating. That’s were proper analysis and searching comes in place. Fortunately, he was able to hear a preacher who has the same line of thinking as he has.

Bro. Mark says,

“One day while I was watching television with my parents. They were channel surfing that has a nice show.  It happens that they came across Channel 13 where the program of Bro. Eli Soriano is. I realize that what he was saying is correct and nothing was wrong. I was able to see wrong things with Muslims and Born Again but I can’t see any wrong teachings with Bro. Eli on TV.

There was also a time in my life while I was teaching Catechism in public school that my conscience bothers me because I was told that what I was teaching my students is wrong. It happens each time that I’m in class. It also happen each Flores de Mayo with children. I cannot clear my conscience knowing that what I teach is wrong. Sometimes, because it bothers me every time I teach Catechism, I teach them what Bro. Eli is saying that the Administration doesn’t know. I told them to listen to Bro. Eli because what he is saying is correct.

Time pass by that I decided to leave the Catholic Religion because of my belief that our faith is wrong. Because I continue to listen to Bro. Eli on television, I decided to attend indoctrination that our Coordinator in Catechism doesn’t know. They want me to enter Priesthood because of my potential but I don’t want to be a priest. They call me Bro. Mark during that time.”

It is very understandable that the reason why a person who used to teach Catechism to young students was converted to the Christian Faith is because of proper investigation. On the other hand, a lot of Catholics who chooses to remain Catholic fails to realize that it is more proper to believe because of right reasoning coupled with the right analysis of facts rather than to believe because of blind faith.

Apparently, it is blind faith that produces vacuum in the hearts and minds of people who are just made to believe that Catholicism should be their religion. That vacuum forces people to find something to fill it in which is not present in the Catholic teachings. That is the reason why they would resort to search for it in other churches. Another interesting testimony which is part of our compilation comes from Sis. Jecelita.

Sis. Jecelita says,

“I’ve been through different religions with different false preachers that have come into this world. I was affiliated with the Catholic Church since birth until my early 20’s. I have never been taught the real teachings of God by those false preachers misleading people’s mind.

At my early 20’s I had started searching for another church which I thought could give me a better understanding of what life really meant. I kept on searching and I went from one church to another.

Then one time, my cousin’s husband invited me to what he called a “grand bible exposition” in our town. From the time I entered the venue, I had a feeling that I couldn’t explain upon seeing like thousands of people gathered inside. We arrived little late and Bro. Eli had started explaining in the midst of the crowd about the state of being of Jesus Christ.

While seeing him on stage, I was thinking that “THIS MAN IS SO DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS AND THE ONLY ONE WHO TEACHES WITH INTELLECT AND BIBLICAL PROWESS. A REAL MAN, STRAIGHT FORWARD WHEN HE PREACHES.” Since then, I have never gone back to my church. I have never attended any church gathering anywhere at all.

Then I went abroad. I found myself with the feeling of emptiness. Then came to me a hundredfold of questions that struck my mind and that kept me sleepless, bored, lonely, hateful guilt-ridden and insecure. These kept on bothering me for days.

One day, my employer came home with a newspaper and placed it on the table. While he was away, I slowly scanned the first page. As I skimmed the pages, I found an advertisement of the Ang Dating Daan, and with it were Bro. Eli’s pictures on the page!

I was surprised, but was glad to be able to call the phone number stated there. The one at the end of the line gave me the location. I was already asking for a possible time for indoctrination. When I got to their locale, there was a baptism being held and I was told to come next time for indoctrination.

I kept on calling them and I kept on coming back to their locale. I have witnessed God’s grace in the person of Bro. Eliseo Soriano. Soon, I got indoctrinated and got baptized on August 28, 2005 by Bro. Sonny Catan in Canada. I now recall how sinful I was then during those days.”

It is very evident that the Catholic teachings does not really suffice the vacuum which is inside a person’s heart. Base on the testimony that we have read, that vacuum was filled when she tried to search and find what is sufficient for her to believe as the genuine Christian teaching.

There are instances when people would realize that what they thought as proper worship attributed to God is not a proper worship at all. Catholics likes to pray in front of statues and relics. This testimony of Sis. Zenaida talks about a life that’s change when the knowledge of proper worship was acquired.

Sis. Zenaida says,

The first and foremost reason why I admire Bro. Eli Soriano very much is that he knows by heart the Bible verses from cover to cover and he sees to it that his explanations were easily understood by everybody.

He also teaches and informs all his listeners, who are members and non-members of the Church of God not only about Religion but also about Science and Alternative Medicine as well.

Moreover, I was enlightened when Bro. Eli pointed out the Catholic manner of worship and prayer which are abominable in the eyes of God.

As the Bible states: “Worship no God but me. Do not make for yourselves images of anything in heaven or on earth or in the water under the earth: Do not bow down to any idol or worship it, for I am the Lord your God and I tolerate no rivals. I bring punishment on those who hate me and on their descendants down to the third and fourth generation,” (Deuteronomy 5:7-9).

All of us know that all Catholic churches are adorned with these idols and relics made by human hands. Furthermore, Matthew 6:6 states that, “When you pray, go to your room, close the door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what you do in private will reward you.” When I was still a Catholic, I used to pray rosary out loud during street processions which, according to Bro. Eli, is against God’s teaching.

In addition, services such as Baptism, Confirmation, Wedding Ceremonies, and the like which are rendered to parishioners are all supposed to be paid whilst Jesus admonished His disciples to give without being paid for they themselves have received without paying.

These are the major reasons why I left the Catholic Church and don’t want to continue displeasing God.

I thank God for the enlightenment He has given me through Bro. Eli Soriano.

One purpose of having a religious belief is to know how to properly worship God. When people suddenly finds out due to proper investigation that worship should not be done in front of statues and Icons which is present in Catholic churches, they feel guilty and heed to the proper teaching that worship should only be done in front and attributed to God alone.

The reasons behind we choose to leave the Catholic Church is easy to understand by a discerning mind. We came to realize due to proper investigation that the Catholic Church is not Christian enough to properly impart the Christian teachings to its members. We also realize that the Christian faith should not be blind and has to conform with rational ideas which is founded on Christ’s words rather than the words of the Pope in Rome.

Certainly, we are not snatched away from the true church. On the other hand, we decided to leave the false teachings of the Catholic Church and cleave to what we believe as the genuine teachings of Christ. We don’t acquire faith because we are blind followers. We are very fortunate that despite the fact that we have become blind followers of false prophets from our former religion, a genuine prophet of God was able to send us God’s message and took us out of darkness into God’s light.

If you want to understand us better, you may do what we did. Investigate and read the bible in order to find out that the Catholic Religion does not belong to the Christian God.

A Friendly Advice to the Bigot Catholic Defender, Alistair Cabugsa, Learn to Love Your Enemies

by Christiandefenders

According to thefreedictionary.com, “a bigot is a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race.” This is a word that I use to fit Alistair’s character.

I came across Alistair on an article posted by the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa noticing the comment that he posted on the Priest’s blog. What he posted is what he called a comparison between the Pope in Rome and Bro. Eli Soriano. It was not a fair and honest comparison but an insult which reflects a bigoted  Catholic Character.  I happen to look at his Multiply account and there I saw a strange thing.

http://archangel777.multiply.com/

Alistair wants death to infidels


This guy loves to use the word “infidel” when he is writing something directed to me on this blog.  The first time I saw this, I immediately had an impression that he sounds like a terrorist.  His desire to put his so-called “infidels” to death, is another proof that the Catholic Church is not really of God. Christians were commanded by the Lord Jesus Christ to love their enemies.

(Matthew 5:43-45)

“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.”

Imagine a Catholic defender who wishes the death of their enemies? A Christian doesn’t wish the death of his enemies but instead they choose to do them good. This was supported by an admonition of St. Paul to the Christians in Rome.

(Romans 12:20)

Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

Alistair believes that the letter to the Romans was address to the Roman Catholics. However, how can it be addressed to someone who wants their enemies dead when the commandment given to the Christians in Rome is to do good to them? Alistair’s behavior could be the result of his belief that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.

The belief that there is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church is really a Catholic doctrine.

“Religion Doctrine and Practice” by Francis B. Casilly page 355

This belief could also be the reason why the Catholic Church murdered 300,000 people in the Inquisition which Pope John Paul II acknowledge in a public confession.

Perhaps Alistair could reflect and assess his self in order to determine if his belief is really a Christian teaching. The Lord Jesus Christ did not order the death of those who do not believe. In addition just like what Bro. Eli said; “God’s justice and compassion can not be limited by man, nor by any church!”

http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/the-roman-catholic-church-is-not-the-true-church-of-god/

Catholics Doesn’t Know that Bro. Eli Soriano was Baptized in the Church of God

by Christiandefenders

One question that I saw from a new Catholic blog is a question regarding the Baptism of Bro. Eli Soriano. “Is Bro. Eli Soriano baptized in the Church of God?”

Just reading the article regarding the life of Bro. Eli on his Official Website will give the answer to this simple question.

http://elisoriano.com/life/

“Soon, Eli pleaded Bro. Perez to baptize him in the Church of God where his parents and siblings are also members. On April 7, 1964, at age 17, he was baptized in Sineguelasan, Bacoor, Cavite at 5:05 p.m.”

More Responses From Alistair, a Supporter of Abe Arganiosa Who Talks Like a Terrorist

by Christiandefenders

When ALISTAIR JEPHTE CABUGSA MIGRIÑO posted a trash comment on Abe Arganiosa’s article, it was very clear for a person with a discerning spirit that what he stated is opinionated, libelous and does not really reflect an honest style of writing. Why call Bro. Eli your Mama when he is not even related to you in any way? It just stirs the attention of people who is sensitive enough to detect and differentiate an insult and mockery from a rational argument. However, let me answer his response to my article that I made for his comment.

If you want to have a full grasp of his insults, feel free to take a peek at his blog by following this link.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/06778017621588053107

You may also go the previous discussion that we had on this link.

https://christiandefenders.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/a-reaction-to-the-comparison-made-by-a-catholic-acolyte-alistair-jephte-cabugsa-migrino-casenas/

When I made an article regarding his comments, this dude immediately responded with a comment on this blog. I’m going to post my initial response to his comment and his response in order to better understand the details of our discussion.

Christiandefenders says:

At the first glance of your greeting I thought that a terrorist has infiltrated the comments section of this blog (talk about infidels). In order to bring justice to your comment, allow me to make a critique of it by discussing your points one by one.

One, you said that you are not an Acolyte. Probably you have mistaken what I mean when I said that you are an acolyte. According to http://thefreedictionary.com/acolyte, an acolyte is someone who assists a priest or minister in a liturgical service; a cleric ordained in the highest of the minor orders in the Roman Catholic Church. However, the meaning of the word “acolyte” is not restricted to an officer who attends or assists a priest. An acolyte could also mean a follower, fan, supporter, convert, admirer, backer, partisan, disciple, devotee, worshipper, apostle, cohort etc. Since you said that you’re a layman and it is obvious that you are a supporter of a priest, I could also classify you as an acolyte.

Alistair says:

I am NOT ONLY Fr. Abe’s supporter, but a supporter of all those who defend the Faith against infidels (a term I reserve for enemies of the Church) like you.

I would like to thank Alistair for admitting that he is not only Abe Arganiosa’s supporter but a supporter of all those who defend the Catholic Faith. My statement that Alistair is an Acolyte was substantiated by his response. The word “infidel” is now commonly used by terrorists. Perhaps, Alistair wants us to have an impression that his job description requires to terrorize the people who contradicts his beliefs.

Christiandefenders says:

Two, that’s a long name. We did not even accused you of being the priest.

Alistair says:

You suggested it. Just because you don’t tell me such things directly does not mean that you’re not suggesting such.

This is a case of non sequitur which means “an intuitive assumption.; “jump to a conclusion” and “a reply that has no relevance to what preceded it” base on binisaya.com.  Alistair has not shown any evidence that I have said that he is Abe Arganiosa. He is trying to refute something that I have never asserted in order to have something to bash. To his dismay, he failed to prove his case by using a weak argument.

Christiandefenders says:

Three, being a former Catholic, I know that the Pope in Rome is endeared as “The Most Holy Father”. This can also be read in various catholic websites by simply typing it on Google.

http://vultus.stblogs.org/2009/03/thank-you-most-holy-father-1.html

http://www.amazon.com/Saint-Benedict-Catholic-Classic-ebook/dp/B002XDR29E

Alistair says:

Super. An Apostate from the Faith. Another reason why I call you an infidel. He is addressed by the Clergy as “HOLY FATHER” (emphasis mine).

If Alistair is just going to be honest, the Pope in Rome is really called as Most Holy Father base on the Catholic Websites that I have shown. The problem with his response is his denial that the Pope in Rome is called as “Most Holy Father” in the Superlative degree.

Alistair says:

Three, clergymen don’t call the Pope “MOST Holy Father.” You just added “MOST” in order to justify your anti-Catholic lies.

Since he denies that the Pope in Rome is called “Most Holy Father”, let me refute him with the belief that he claims to be his. Alistair asserted that the Pope in Rome is called “Holy Father”.  In the bible, it is prohibited to call a preacher as “Father” and the disciples of Christ knows that.

(Matthew 23:8-12)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/was-peter-really-the-rock/

Christiandefenders says:

Four, we did not even kill any INC preacher. In fact, our members and church workers are the ones being killed. Have you not read or heard the case of Bro. Marcos Mataro. You better follow this link to have an idea.

http://www.stepmind.com/video/video-ZeiivRAs2oA.html

Alistair says:

Does ROMY ESPAÑOL ring a bell to you? It should: Your people poisoned him.

Romy Español was not poisoned. Medical reports proves that Bro. Romy Español died because of stroke. Food poisoning is a hearsay which Alistair got from INC who was bashed by Bro. Romy Español on his segment INCM Exposed which can be seen on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dveNVKcydLE

However, if Alistair is going to use the information provided by INC, he must therefore believe that what INC says is true. An information which came from INC states that the Catholics are of the Devil.

Translation :  “We should also condemn all Catholic and Protestant Churches because they are not of God but of Satan…”

Since Alistair is using INC as his witness to get his information, he must also accept the information which came from INC that Catholics are of Satan.

Christiandefenders says:

Five, the Popes in Rome did not suffer tribulation while being sitted on their Royal throne. Kings and Magistrates will even kneel to them and kiss the cross on their sandals. I don’t see any tribulation to that.

Alistair says:

There were those, however, who share in the glorious fruit of Holy Martyrdom, endured the knives and missiles of their persecutors… I could go on and on, and you would still stonewall. In any case, do you judge the Apostles by Judas Iscariot?

Alistair’s case cannot be substantiated with a circular reasoning. This is a fallacy “in which the premises include the claim that the conclusion is true or (directly or indirectly) assume that the conclusion is true” base on nikzor.com also known as “Begging the Question”. Another problem with his response is that it does not directly confirm that the Popes has a cross on their sandals in which Kings, Queens and Magistrates kisses.  However, the way his statement is constructed implies that he affirms that fact. In addition, I cannot compare the case of the twelve Apostles with the case of the Popes in Rome because the twelve Apostles are clearly of God while the Popes in Rome are of the Devil.

Christiandefenders says:

Six, do you know what a red notice is? It is not a proof of conviction. It is an Interpol notice describing a wanted person and asking that he or she be arrested with a view to extradition. This is something similar to what had happened to the Apostles during the time of the first century Christian Church. The Apostle Paul was even put to prison and was accused falsely. However, if you are interested to know what the details of the alleged case filed against Bro. Soriano, you can browse through this link.

http://jakeastudillo.wordpress.com

Alistair says:

Yes, I do. It means your MAMA ELI is an international criminal. Wakarimasu? (Japanese: Understood?)

I cannot  accept an allegation base on hearsay. If Alistair do not know what a hearsay is,  according to thefreedictionary.com, it is “an evidence based on the reports of others rather than the personal knowledge of a witness and therefore generally not admissible as testimony.” Bro. Eli has been accused of crimes that he did not commit at any instance in his life. This is just the same thing that early messengers of God experienced just like the Prophet Jeremiah who was maligned by his detractors through their devised devices.

(Jeremiah 18:18)

Then said they, Come and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.

Let me quote an article posted on Quazen.com

http://quazen.com/reference/biography/much-maligned-preacher-wins-over-distinguished-author-in-international-open-web-awards/

“For 45 years preaching the word of God, he had become an expert on matters of Christian living and salvation that his preaching had changed many lives. Known as the nemesis of false preachers, he had attracted many enemies far and wide. One by one, anyone claiming to be appointed by God to prophesy, much more to be the son of God, Soriano would challenge and expose. Later on, he would reap many cases filed in court due to his mouth. Nevertheless, he feared no one as long as truth was involved, no matter that people tore him to pieces. He remained as “appointed messenger of God” to millions of those who believed in his preaching due to his unequalled understanding of biblical truth, reaping another moniker, “Truthcaster.” Today, he maintains a program by that name.”

In addition, why call Bro. Eli as your Mama Eli? This insult does not substantiate a rational argument.

Christiandefenders says:

Seven, a lot of people believes that colonial mentality is bad. Would you like to entertain their idea?

Alistair says:

It’s called “playing with their heads.” What you guys would do in my place.

Really?  The mind of a Christian follows a discipline though.

(Romans 12:2)

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Christiandefenders says:

Eight, looking back at history, it was not just ordinary members of the Catholic Church who were involved in the Inquisition. It was actually instituted by Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) in Rome. A later pope, Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisition, in 1233, to combat heresy of the Abilgenses, a religious sect in France. Catholic Pontiffs themselves were involved with these mass murders.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Inquisition.html

Alistair says:

AGAIN you judge the Apostles by Iscariot. The original duty of the Inquisition (now known as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Papa Ben’s old post), was to combat heresy and preserve orthodoxy (and then the latter in the Modern Church). Clerics cannot shed blood, and so the recourse was left to the civil authorities, hence the infamous Spanish Inquisition. In any case, we did what was noble, acknowledging the errors of our antecedents, but no Prot ever did the same to us, nor did your leader do such to those he sodomized.

I do not judge the Apostles with Judas the Iscariot. Alistair again tries to refute something that I did not even assert. I was simply stating a fact that the Catholic Church has records of Mass Murders because of the Inquisition. Even the late Pope John Paul II acknowledges that fact on his public apology.

Imagine the 300,000 people who were burned at stake in the Inquisition which was approved by Catholic Pontiffs. A religion who is of God cannot commit such crime.  As for the hearsay accusation that Alistair pointed out, I will just quote something from http://jakeastudillo.wordpress.com/ .

“The rape case was dismissed on January 26, 2006 penned by Alexandro Lopez, Assistant Provincial Prosecutor of Region III, San Fernando, Pampanga as approved by Jesus Y. Manarang, the Provincial Prosecutor. In part, the document says: “The foregoing facts, together with the rift going on between the INC and the ADD, which we cannot deny, only show that the complainant was indisputably ill-motivated from the inception, and these necessarily, without any scintilla of doubt, substantially affect, if not lessen, his credibility as an unperjured affiant. Wherefore, premises having been considered, the undersigned recommends the DISMISSAL, as he hereby DISMISSES, the complaint for rape filed by Daniel Veridiano against Eliseo Soriano docketed herein as I.S. N0. 05-I-2459 and 2460.” ”

Christiandefenders says:

Nine, get your facts straight before stating your comments. Don’t just rely on circulating gossips from your apologists.

Alistair says:

There ARE facts in that statement. One of which is:

PAPA: popular with the crowd
MAMA: avoids the crowd , NBI, POLICE AND INTERPOL

Did your MAMA ELI face law enforcement to answer the accusations of rape levelled against her? Nyet, Non, Nein, Iie, Hindi, Laa, NO! (In order: Russian, French, German, Japanese, Filipino, Arabic, and English)

Bro. Eli has been accused in court within the span of time that he preaches. He was able to attend court cases because of many accusations hurled against him. The crime of Rape on the other hand was already dismissed even before it reaches the higher courts. Our enemies, though the case was dismissed, just managed to use their influence in order to escalate the case which is not proper. However, we have lawyers who constantly defends the cause of our preacher with their unwavering commitment to answer against the people who manages to make it an issue.

It is not true that Bro. Eli avoids the crowd. In fact, he is always with the crowd whenever he preaches abroad which results to the conversion of souls.

Bro. Eli preaches in public

Christiandefenders says:

Ten, Peter was never a Pope in Rome.

http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/was-peter-really-the-rock

Alistair says:

That’s just like saying Bro. Eli was never in Apalit, ergo:

http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/refuting-anonymous-irish-anti-catholic.html

No it doesn’t. It’s simply stating a fact supported by documents and information from the Holy Scriptures.

Alistair says:

In any case, St. Paul DID send a letter the the ROMANS. If the Holy Church is the Great Satan (which you guys proclaim), then St. Paul’s letter was addressed to the Great Satan, and the Antichrist’s name would be in 2 letters of the Bible (1-2 Peter). Need I reiterate myself?

Where did Alistair get the idea that we have a claim that St. Paul sent his letters to the Great Satan? That is something that we have never asserted nor have we implied.  Paul’s letter was addressed to the Christians in Rome and not to the Antichrists of his time.

(Romans 1:1-7)

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: 5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: 6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Alistair says:

Most of your arguments are essentially child’s play to those with experience. The only ones who would believe you are most likely, after a fashion, “snot-nosed genin.” That’s why pros exist, to help the noobs understand what just happened, and counter properly the hostile.

An straw man argument cannot substantiate Alistair’s  composition. According to Nikzor.com, “The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.” Instead of properly addressing the issue, Alistair resorts to a claim that is subject to careful examination which he fails to do.

Alistair states:

Adios, kuffar! (Spanish: Goodbye; Arabic: infidels, kafir in the singular)

Aegis-Judex
The Carolinian Thorn

I know someone who could use the word “infidels” in a nice and funny way.

Learn from Achmed, the dead terrorist. His satyre is better and more entertaining than Alistair’s pathetic accusations and circular reasoning.

In conclusion, all of Alistair’s responses are products of his fallacies which Abe Arganiosa is also fond of.

Soc Fernandez Backed-Out From an Organized Debate

by Christiandefenders

This is a short answer to an allegation of Abe Arganiosa  regarding an awaited debate which was suppose to take place in Cebu. Abe Arganiosa and other Catholic Apologist claims that Bro. Eli Soriano backed-out from an awaited debate which is an outright lie.

Fr. Abe, CRS said…

Dear Bro. Jub,

It is very obvious that it was Soriano who backed out. Mayor Soc debated the best of the best of formal and official debaters of various religions in the Visayan and English language. His collections of debates are classics.

Soriano on the other hand, cannot show high calibred debates with various religions. And most of his debates are street type format. Pang kalye… KASI ASONG KALYE, E. But the debates of Soc Fernandez are Oxford style and other internationally recognized format. They are really based on rules and gentlemanly in style.

Soriano is nothing in comparison.

Bro. Soriano was eager to debate with Socrates Fernandez as he had explained during the debate with Rey Entila who is one of Socrates Fernandez’ minions.

A person like Bro. Eli who is a seasoned debater will not back out from that debate. It was Socrates Fernandez who did not show-up during the day of the debate. In addition, Bro. Eli had bible expositions in Cebu over the years and another arrangement for debate is always possible.

Bro. Eli Soriano preaches and defends the gospel of Christ for over 40 years now and there was never an instance wherein a pastor, minister or a priest was able to put him to shame. He is always triumphant on all of his debates whether it’s a Catholic or a Protestant.

In summary, it was Socrates Fernandez who backed-out from the debate and not Bro. Eli Soriano.